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Posted 10/23/2006 11:01 AM
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This is my first time doing this.  I have finally gotten to a point where I HAVE to figure out what is wrong with me.  Ever since I've remember, I've had trouble going to bed and waking up early.  When I was in middle school and high school, I would lay in bed going over the days events or what I had to do the next day.  It would normally take me anywhere from 30min to over an hour to get to bed at night.  Then in the morning, I could never wake up.  My mom would try over and over again.  Now that I'm older (28 Female) I still have the same problem, except I don't have my mom there to make sure I'm up.  It still takes me awhile to get to bed, but it's not as bad as it used to be.  My biggest problem now is waking up in the morning.  I work from 8:00-5:00 and then go to school from 6:00-9:00.  I normally get home anywhere from 9:30-10:00 at night.  I try to go to bed by midnight at the latest, even though it really doesn't matter what time I lay down at, I still lay in my bed trying to sleep.  I have one alarm clock with two alarms and I also use my cell phone as an alarm.  Sometimes I don't hear ANY of them go off.  I have been working at the same job for 6 years now.  My tardiness has always been a problem and I can't believe they haven't fired me yet.  But I am out of warnings now.  I also just recently moved in with a friend of mine.  Unfortunately she doesn't even need an alarm to wake her up and wakes up to mine every morning.  It's getting to the point where we are fighting over this because some mornings I don't hear any of the alarms and she hears all of them.  I really don't know what to do.  I'm not doing any of this on purpose but I'm getting blamed for it all.  I feel like pretty soon I'm going to loose a great job and a great friend because of my sleep habits.  Does anyone else have this same problem?  And if so, is there anything I can do?

Please help!

Heather

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Posted 10/24/2006 10:06 PM
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I have had this same problem since I was a teenager...actually, from what my mom tells me, probably more like since I was a child.  I am now 29 years old (female also.)  I have had 2 long term jobs since I was 18 years old...I lost one job because I coulnd't wake up in the morning and I was late every day.  I am late to work pretty much every day for this same reason even now.  I am pretty shocked that I haven't lost my job either (I have only been there for 3 months.)  It's nice to know that someone else shares my same problem.  Now I just want to know why there isn't any medical explanation.  Are we the only 2 people in the world with this problem?  I mean, seriously. 

I have also had problems/episodes where I will have a conversation (not very nice ones) with my mom and my husband, with no recollection.  I used to yell not-very-nice things at my mom when she would try to wake me for school and I would not remember a word of the conversation.  Also my husband told me just this morning as a matter of fact that I refused to get out of bed...and I honestly don't remember it.  He said I was saying a bunch of mumbo jumbo that made no sense so he left me alone.  I was looking forward to having coffee with him too.  One thing I have done in the past is have my Mom call me in the morning and talk to me until she was sure I was awake, but a few weeks ago my husband called me in the morning from work and my arms were so numb/tingly/painful/stiff that I couldn't even get a hold of my phone to answer it...It was the weirdest thing I have ever had happen to me.  Needless to say I just went back to sleep.  Most mornings I will turn off my alarm (unbeknownst to myself) and it's a miracle that I get up just in the nic of time to make it to work.  I know that the people at this job and my past 2 jobs have looked at me in a bad way because of this problem, but it's something that makes you look really bad and it seems like a bad excuse for laziness. 

I really feel like my problem has been treated as unimportant and has gone unnoticed for too long.  I printed off that sleep diary and I am going to start it tonight so that the next time I go to the doctor maybe I will be taken seriously.   

 

 

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Posted 10/27/2006 9:37 PM
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I do something similar to what you are describing Dawn.  I am a 24 year old female.  I know that since I was a teenager, at the very least, I have had episodes while I was sleeping where I will get out of bed and do things, talk to people, and I have answered the phone many times and had complete conversations with people.  I also will get up and turn off all alarms that go off while I am sleeping, all without any recollection whatsoever of any of it occuring.  The people that I speak with when I am doing it have no idea that I am really asleep, my eyes will be open and I will have coherent speech.  I also will find that I wake up many mornings in odd positions that I have been in for too long because my arm or my leg will be really painful, I am not sure if that is related to this or if I just sleep in weird position.  I have noticed that I tend to do it more in times of high stress.  I don't tend to have difficulty falling asleep, and I don't consciously wake up during the night, but I always have the worst time waking up in the morning.  I tend to be sluggish and feel as if I am not getting the rest I need, even if I get a full night's sleep.  The closest thing I have found to describe this is sleep walking, which from what I have read tends to happen mostly in children who quit showing symptoms when they get older, and they tend to not have coherent speech.  Mostly it seems from what I have read about it, other people know when they are really asleep and having a sleep walking episode.  That has never been the case with what I do.  Until I realized that this was happening family and friends would become angry with me because I would argue with them while I was doing it, or even agree to do something and make promises that I would have no recollection of when I woke up. 

I have spoken with my doctors and psychiatrists about it, my last psychiatrist told me it was odd and that he had never heard of it.  He continually prescribed different types of sleeping pills for me to try, to help me get a deeper sleep but the pills only made matters worse in that I would feel drugged out all day and still be having the same problems at night.  Every other doctor I have spoken with about it tends to think that if I don't feel I am in physical danger from it, i.e. I don't worry that I will walk out of the house in the middle of the night while still sleeping, then it's not a concern.  If you find out any further insight into this it would be great to hear about.

 

Tiffany

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Posted 10/30/2006 8:47 PM
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I also have a similar situation. I am 26 years old (female).  I also work full time and go to school at night.  I cannot fall asleep right away no matter how tired I am when I go to bed.  As  soon as I lay down I am wide awake.  I will stay up flipping through channels to at least 2:00 a.m.  If I shut off the tv, I listen to the clock tick (which is enough to drive anyone insane).  However, when I do finally fall asleep, I fall into such a deep sleep I've been told I look dead.  Sometime I sleep with my eyes open, I won't hear my alarm, my mother actually checks my pulse.  My boyfriend actually got mad at me because he thought I was faking.  My eyes were open and he was actually sitting me up and I would just slump over.  I barely ever wake to my alarm, and if I do, I shut it off without realizing, or I hit the snooze button and sleep right through it.  I have been late for work so many times it is unbelievable.  My boss actually moved by work time because he thought I was overloaded with school work.  Now I don't really have to be into work until 10:00, and I still have a hard time.  In high school I used to give two of my friends rides to school.  They actually started to take the public bus, because I was always so late, and we'd end up with detention.  After so many tardies in on term, you could end up with a suspension.  I don't know what to do, it's been this way for as long as I can remember.  I feel so immature, and childish I can't even get out of bed in the morning to make a living!!!
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Posted 11/1/2006 9:34 AM
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Can't wake up in the morning.....you are not alone.  I have struggled with this for years.  I think it started when I was 10 years old.  I have lost family and friends because they don't understand why I can't wake up in the morning.  I almost divorced my husband because of the abuse.  I finally started talking about it.  It's not my fault.  I am not lazy, I just have a problem with no cure.  It's not easy, but hang in there.
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Posted 11/8/2006 9:19 AM
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Hi, I am glad I found this site. I am getting so discouraged that I was looking, trying to find anything that would help explain my condition. And came across this discussion. I too feel like I am the only one who is like this. I also am female, although older then most here it seems, 42 and have also been going through this for as long as I can remember and it has only gotten worse. And the hardest thing is NO ONE understands! I HAVE lost jobs for over sleeping one to many times, acquired many nicknames, constantly teased, the looks from co workers and supervisors, trips to the bosses office, and 17 yrs of being woke up by yelling, cussing, name calling, etc. (verbally and emotionally abusive ex husband) because he was one of those that can wake up at the same time every day without an alarm clock.

I've 3 alarms clocks, the phone, etc. I do not hear anything. It is like I go deaf when I am asleep. Not to long ago my landlord had to come in and do some work on AC and was in the attic banging and pounding - I slept thru it. Then he came in another time to pull up the carpet and I woke up and my whole living room was outside and the carpet was almost all out. He laughed and said "you were asleep? I didn't think you were home".

Over 6 yrs ago I had went to the dr. about it but because I was going thru "problems at home" they chalked it up to depression. For the next 5 yrs that's want I've been told. Then finally got a different primary dr. that sent me for cat scan and mri (because when I do wake up, my head feels like it is going to explode and I am dizzy) and to sleep specialist. The cat scan and mri came back ok so went to sleep specialist and he did test and diagnosed me with sleep apnea, although said it was mild. He recommended and sent me to sleep tech. for CPAP machine, said the reason for bad headaches were from the sleep apnea and not getting enough oxygen to my brain. So I started using the machine and headaches were starting to get somewhat better then the dog chewed up the mask and hose. The engine had went out in my car so I had no way to go pick up new one. At work it was getting really bad, thank God I have a very understanding supervisor but with his advise and my doctors to keep from losing my job, my dr. took me out of work and sent me back to specialist. They then diagnosed me with narcolepsy and told me the reason I sleep so sound is because I skip the first few sleep cycles and go directly into the REM cycle which is the deep sleep cycle.

To make a bad situation worse, the specialist I saw the first left without warning so I had to go to another one who now says he doesn't think I have sleep apnea, just narcolepsy. Frustrated again I went to a neurologist who was a total*****and said he didn't think I had either, that I was severely depressed. He said I don't know anyone with narc. or sleep apnea that can't wake up. And suggested if necessary have my daughter (who is 15) pull me out of bed literally and pour water on me and either I'll wake up or I'll go back to sleep on the floor. At some point asked what I expected him to do. DUH i want some help! I want to know what is wrong with me, you tell me. you're the dr.! I was so upset they called the social worker in. So now I am going back to my primary dr. and I guess starting all over. Yes I am depressed! I can't wake up, I feel like a burden, especially to my daughter - she shouldn't have to be responsible for waking me up. I am behind on all the bills since i can't work, not to mention all my kids and grandson's birthdays are coming and then Christmas. And no one can tell what is wrong and why I am the way I am. I am on meds for depression and have tried the provigle but it didn't seem to do much so now I am on adderrall which works a little better. The sleep specialist said we need to rest "my clock". I don't even think I have a clock. He said put a light on a timer so it goes off with the alarm, I asked him what good is that going to do when I don't hear the alarm.

I had been talking to a blind guy on the bus at work one day and he mentioned something about a "hearing dog" so I did a little checking and there are "hearing dogs" that are trained to alert you to sounds. The problem is not being legally hard of hearing or deaf, not to mention the cost, it would probably be impossible to get one thru an agency or organization. So of course the thought to try to train my own dog immediately came to mind since he is the one that can seen to wake me up the easiest by pawing at me or licking me. But then thru researching it, learned he was probably too old (he's 9) but then ironically I had an opportunity to get another dog, (well puppy, she was 6mos at the time) which I had been considering for different reasons but then the thought came again to train her. I haven't actually started yet as she needs some obedience training first which I hope to start with her soon. I have really gotten to the point of hopelessness as far as the dr. goes and am beginning to think she is my only hope. At least if I can train her to wake me up, I can be able to work. I do have the other symptoms of being sleepy most of the time but the meds do help that. The main disabling problem is the waking up! I very much sympathize with everyone here and look forward to talking more. Hopefully one of us can get some info that will help us. I am so glad I found this site to know that I am not the only one. Maybe if the other's here have not had sleep test you should ask you dr. about them. Please let me know if anyone learns anymore about our "rare" condition.

Sorry so long, guess it just felt good to vent to someone else who finally understands what I am going thru.

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Welcome krn4him, glad to hear you are venting it!  We've got to start talking about it.  Whatever it is, whatever anyone wants to call it, its a terrible disease and it's not our fault.  Yes, I will admit to the long term depression too, but why am I in a paralyzing state in the morning.  I have to be physically taken from the bed; sometimes I fall asleep on the bathroom floor, couch, and shower without even knowing it.  What are these two combinations and what do we do?  I do have a medication "once I am awake, to stay awake", but the initial morning thing is getting frustrating for my family.  I'm talking to a new doctor this Friday.  I will keep you posted. 

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Posted 11/9/2006 8:18 AM
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Charlene,

Thanks for the welcome. Just finding this site and knowing I am not the only one is some comfort. Yea I have meds to help me stay awake once I am awake also. It's the waking up to take them that's the problem. Have you been tested for narcolepsy? Sounds like you have the classic symptoms. I was surprized when they diagnosed me with it because I don't have a lot of the typical symptoms but I was told it can effect people different and not everyone has all of the symptoms. I thought once I had got the diagnoses I felt somewhat releived, at least to know that it wasn't just me; but they tell me the not being able to wake up is not symptoms of either diagnoses. So .... It has effected my family also, along with friends. No one understands.

Thanks for talking and listening. Good luck at your appt. Please keep me posted,  maybe with all the different dr.s we can help each other. Until then, as hard and frustrating as it is, we just got to hang in there and keep searching for answers.

Hope you have a good day
God bless
Karen

 

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Posted 11/10/2006 12:41 PM
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Hi all,

It is great to know that I am not the only one!!!  I am a 26 year old female and for as long as I can remember I have had difficulty waking up in the morning.  Once I'm up I'm OK, maybe a little groggy but I can deal with that.  I have been starting to think that maybe this condition is in my head, that I just don't want to wake up.  Now that I know that all of you have the same condition I know that it's a real problem.

I have been at my job for 3 years and love it, but lately I've been very afraid that I will get fired for my consistent tardiness.  I have 7, that's right 7 alarm clocks and I don't hear ANY of them.  I have them placed all around my room so if I actually hear one I will have to get out of bed to turn it off.  I used to buy a new alarm clock once a month so there would be a new sound to wake me up, but that even stopped working.  I also used to have an alarm clock for deaf people which buzzed, blinked the lights, and vibrated under my bed.  This worked for maybe a week.  I am to the point that I just don't know what to do.  I recently purchased a new house and am scared to death that I will get fired and not be able to pay my mortgage.

Along with my sleep issues I have horrible allergies and sinus problems.  My Ear/Nose/Throat Specialist just told me about a month ago that I have a deviated septum.  After doing some research on Sleep Apnea I found that a deviated septum can have something to do with it.  I just want all of my problems fixed!!!  I meet with the Specialist again on Monday and am going to ask him about the deviated septum, sleep apnea correlation and see if he can do anything.

Just like some of you said, I am SICK of people not believing me that I physically cannot wake up.  I do not want to lose my job over this and really want the problems fixed.  Keep me posted on any remedies or anything that any of you have come up with.

Thanks,

~Angie

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Posted 11/13/2006 6:08 PM
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Hi All,

 I was browsing the web when I came across this discussion. I am so glad that I am not alone in this! I hate being so tired all the time.

 I am a 31 year old female. I have  severe sleep apnea. I urge you all to get a sleep study done. I never would have thought that I had problems with sleep. After it all... sleep was all I did. I can not work and have had to stop driving. I have dizzy spells and blackouts. I have been told that I can hold conversations and even become mean with people when I have one of these blackouts... but I never remember anything. I have the hardest time getting up in the morning... I have to set an alarm for two hours earlier than I need to get up, and most of the time I just snooze through it without even remembering it!

 I went to a sleep study and was surprised that I was not sleeping at night. I have a sleep apnea index of 86! Which is very high, meaning I stop breathing and wake up 86 times per hour!! I was put on CPAP and it has made a big difference. I can sleep when I use the CPAP and can even get up and function the next morning. Sadly though, if I miss a night of using the machine, due to headaches or allergies, I am again the half awake person the next day. I am now struggling to get some weight off so hopefully my sleep apnea will improve, it can be hard though when you have no energy to exercise.

 I just want you all to know that you are not alone. I now how hard it can be, especially when it seems that no one understands. I hope that each one of you finds help. Many doctors are just now finding that sleep apnea and other problems are a real threat to our health, and many overlook them as problems. Mention your fears to your doctor and request a sleep study, if he won't help you, find a doctor that will. I know that it has helped me, and even though I still struggle, the battle has become a bit easier.

 Thanks for giving me the time to share and I wish the best for everyone here.

Thanks,

Genia

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